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  • Shingro 6:24 am on November 20, 2012 Permalink
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    @redswirl Totally reasonable, I’d go to the tech guys for a raw power analysis, though I’m not convinced the raw power and stats is the most important factor to a console’s long term viability (Vita probably sad about this atm)

    I do suspect depending on the outlet they get all sorts of stories from developers, forwarded emails and suchlike, especially if someone’s trying to explain to them about things like the FEZ patch situation or explain why they decided to move to a different platform. I dunno… I’m not in the industry, hard to say!

    I guess maybe nobody can really give hardware buying advice? I dunno

     
  • RedSwirl 6:11 am on November 20, 2012 Permalink
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    @shingro I’m just sayin’, game critics spend a lot of time paying attention to the games, not the inner workings of the hardware they run on. Eventually after they’ve analyzed enough games they get a feeling of what the average game on that platform looks like, but I haven’t seen very many wax poetic about WHY one console is more powerful than another.

    Even everything they know about Microsoft’s and Sony’s policies with downloadable games comes from the news stories they write, not any “inside experience” with them, at least not to the extent of the developers actually trying to release digital games. The most a game critic can really give you on a “hardware review” is the feel of the controller and the OS. Those people in the past have been very wrong on more than one occasion when it comes to the future of a platform’s game library.

     
  • Shingro 5:36 am on November 20, 2012 Permalink
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    I dunno, Tech critics could probably speak to things like the power of the current hardware, how it compares against industry averages maybe, potential output and suchlike.

    Still I suspect the game critics who are in the trenches every day might have a better idea of the console’s *potential* since they know more about things like “how Sony’s divided departments tends to affect console update rapidity” and “How Microsoft’s highly restrictive certification process affects their online store” and “Nintendo’s notorious inexperience with online systems and online social elements”

    I mean, I wouldn’t say that it wouldn’t be worth getting opinions outside the industry, but I think the people who follow these things every day would have valuable experience in the matter, so long as you trust the outlet. If I imagine Tested doing a review of the Wii U vs GiantBomb doing a review of the Wii U… I think I’d assume Giant Bomb would have a better idea of the Wii U’s future as a platform, rather then as potential.

    Not that it matters since it seems that everyone’s review is hedging like a hedgehog might hedge if a hedgehog could hedge hedges. Also there does seem to be a current of severe jaded-ness about. I suspect none of the consoles are going to fair pretty well under the public eye. Hard to say!

     
  • RedSwirl 4:38 am on November 20, 2012 Permalink
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    @shingro Tech critics. @angryjedi said it best when he said that tech heads are more suited to review cameras than photographers. Well actually, a photographer reviewing a camera is probably more akin to a developer reviewing a game console, which actually sounds like something I’d want to read. I guess the equivalent of what we’re seeing here is like a photo art critic reviewing a camera. He should only review the art made with that hardware, not the hardware itself.

     
  • Shingro 4:16 am on November 20, 2012 Permalink
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    In terms of game critics reviewing new game hardware I think I’ll throw a different element into the ring.

    If not the game reviewers, then who?

    I’m not sure who else would be positioned to speak with less bias on the possible potential or likelyhood of a console making it in this market and what people can expect from it. Sure they might be firing in the dark, but at least they’re in the same room as the target.

    (It’s funny though because the few reviews I’ve seen of the Wii U as a hardware system seem to be typified as “Cautiously optimistic” and often using very qualified language like “Frame rate problems, but that might not mean a power deficit!” or “difficult to set up online, but that could absolutely be fixed in firmware later!”

    Overall, more positive then I expected, but maybe I just frequent the happy-funtime-sparkles sites =P

     
  • RedSwirl 11:57 pm on November 19, 2012 Permalink
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    @bluesforbuddha It is indeed. I had to explain this to my brother after E3 two years ago. It’s kind amazing how little Nintendo has been able to hype up their new console 18 months after first revealing it. I for one think it was a mistake to hold back the TV ad campaign until the month of launch. Maybe Nintendo was waiting for the Wii U to pick up the word-of-mouth leading up to launch that the Wii did. Despite the Wii U not being as much of a marketing hit right off the bat, I think we can still pretty comfortably say that they’er gonna sell all their units for this fall. Anyone else who would theoretically buy one probably wouldn’t be able to until spring, giving Nintendo’s marketing department a little time. Maybe Nintendo getting the system out just prior to Thanksgiving will turn out to be a smart move when people share it with visiting family. I hear NintendoLand is actually turning out to be an excellent family game.

     
  • RedSwirl 6:48 pm on November 19, 2012 Permalink
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    @angryjedi The problem with hardware reviews from my perspective (by the way, tech heads probably do review cameras) is that there’s no metric to which to compare it. What is a 9/10 or 10/10 piece of hardware? Do we even remember what people gave the 360 and PS3 seven and six years ago respectively? From my experience people were also quite negative on those two launches, even from a software standpoint.

    Not to be down on the Vita, but I kind of agree on the main criticism of its software library lacking unique games. I think it’s a great piece of hardware, but I can only think of maybe two games that I’d want to own on it. I already own quite a bit of unique 3DS software in comparison. That’s another discussion though. I think the Vita has great potential for certain kinds of games that just aren’t appearing.

    I tried out the Wii U controller at a GameStop and personally I like it a lot from a tactility standpoint. The screen is somewhere between the 3DS touch screen and an iPhone screen, which makes sense given the whole console costs less than an unsubsidized iPhone. I especially love the D pad and face buttons, which remind me a lot of the DS Lite pad and buttons.

    And on the whole artistic side, yeah it is the games that still matter. I’ve heard that several of the third party ports run worse than on 360. If I bought one now it would be for Mario, NintendoLand, and to check out ZombiU. That said, Rayman, 101, and Pikmin are gonna be looking pretty good in a few months.

    @mjpilon In terms of the next Xbox and PlayStation, I wouldn’t be surprised if people ended up being disappointed that the graphics weren’t “HD enough.” We really don’t know a damn thing, but some speculations are saying they won’t be much better than a current mid-range PC, and that a lot of the games will still be 720p and 30 frames per second in order to get more horsepower out of the hardware. Seven years ago a lot of people were unimpressed that the leap from PS2 to Xbox 360 wasn’t as amazing as the leap from PS1 to PS2. It’s very possible we could see that happen again next year. Personally, I’d be satisfied with graphics similar to what I’ve seen in PC gameplay videos of Crysis 3 and Medal of Honor Warfighter (seriously, the latter game looks insane on PC).

     
  • bowlisimo 4:01 pm on November 19, 2012 Permalink
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    Holy shit, Star Citizen is nearing 6 mil. Not too surprised, there were a significant amount of 30+ year old backers sounding off in the “How old are you?” thread on their site. That’s a lot of old 90’s pilots, with disposable income in hand, desperately wanting to dust off their flight suits and get back in the cockpit again. To SPACE! You old farts! Getch yer goggles.

    @cptcarnage Awesome! You’re crazier than I am. Now I can dock my Hornet on your ship and walk around. God…if they deliver even half of what they’re promising…

    @angryjedi @unmanneddrone I could make a case for a buyer’s guide kind of review, like one of those “Is there value in getting this console right now? Yes/No” reviews, based on the price, the experience of using it, and the software available. But yeah, attaching a number is pretty fucking stupid. It’s not too dissimilar from the MMO review problem.

     
  • mjpilon 1:42 pm on November 19, 2012 Permalink
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    @unmanneddrone @angryjedi People’s views on the WiiU were decided way ahead of time – how long have we been hearing the “end of current cycle, not start of new cycle” line amongst enthusiasts – even before anyone actually played the damn thing? I don’t think WiiU had much of a chance in that context. The real joke of the cynicism is that people say they want something new but actually, all they want is for graphics to look shiner and EVEN MORE HD. All the new Xbox or Playstation has to do is up the resolution, keep everything else the exact same and I guarantee people will be ecstatic.

    As for the WiiU itself, I am interested overall but right now, I can’t justify buying a new console at the moment. The Giantbomb videos I’ve seen of some of the videos give me hope – parts of Nintendo Land seemed genuinely fun, ZombiU actually looked pretty cool and NSMBU is what it is. Probably next year but I have way too many games left to play on my current consoles to get through.

    Also, hardware reviews are just ridiculous at this point especially given that the primary function of the console is to play games works fine and realistically, the best of which won’t come out until developers get comfortable with the hardware so we won’t see the hardware’s real potential for a while. How smooth the OS works, how the online functions right now means nothing, especially given that we know things are missing and that patches are needed/coming. Just stick to reviewing the launch games people… if you want to review the hardware, at least give it a few weeks to allow for patches and initial server crunch to die down.

     
  • unmanneddrone 9:21 am on November 19, 2012 Permalink
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    Anyone care to put a finger on the acerbic press reception the Wii U is getting? I mean, as a Vita owner, living in so-called commercial palliative care – less than a year after it launched in the West – is something you’ve got to endure from the peanuts…but on launch?

    Wince-inducing call of the day on the OS and specs goes to: “…six month too early software on hardware six years too late.” Good heavens.

     
  • Shingro 4:29 am on November 19, 2012 Permalink
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    @feenwager I…. I dunno, I’m suspicious of current-gen (or at least close) tech being able to drive 2 screens without frame loss without very specific effort from third parties

    Effort that I’m not sure nintendo will be able to get from third parties due to history… which will ironically reinforce the poor third party performance…. and that could get quite sad.

    Maybe! I hope I’m wrong, but we’ll see.

     
  • RocGaude 11:17 pm on November 18, 2012 Permalink
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    Later. Enjoying my Sony hardware these days. Got my sights on a Vita.

    @bowlisimo Watchu playin’ these days on your PS3?

     
  • RedSwirl 8:57 pm on November 18, 2012 Permalink
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    Livestream showing the OS looked good. I’d think about buying one if I wasn’t trying to build a computer. I could see why dedicated PC people wouldn’t care though. Does @bowlisimo care about any upcoming console hardware?

    After next spring the Wii U will probably be a good investment from my point of view. NSMBU, Rayman, NintendoLand, Wonderful 101, Mighty Switch Force HD, and Pikmin make for several exclusives I actually give a shit about.

    Heard some good things about Nintendo’s policy with developers on eShop.

     
  • bowlisimo 7:09 pm on November 18, 2012 Permalink
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    Edit: In the nicest, most indifferent way possible.

     
  • RedSwirl 11:54 pm on September 17, 2012 Permalink
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    @Shingro Wii U Thoughts: Nintendo’s problem is still in attracting the right developers – of which almost none have any working relationship with them. The tablet thing in my opinion has a lot of potential and I’m liking most of what I hear about the interface. I just don’t know if a lot of developers will give a shit. I also think many of the critics need to understand that Nintendo will probably never sell a beefed-up $500 console at a loss like Sony and Microsoft likely plan to. New Super Mario Bros. U, Wonderful 101, and Rayman look like they’re going to be incredible games.

    Borderlands: Didn’t buy the first one because I was already playing enough loot-driven games at the time. I’m going to rent the new one and see if ti can get its hooks in me in the first few hours. If so and if enough of you guys are playing it on Steam, I’ll grab a physical PC copy… eventually. Same goes for Dishonored, Far Cry 3, and Hitman.

    Finishing up on Last Story now. To me it feels like the Japanese Mass Effect 3. Nothing to do with the ending, but just structurally it resembles that game the most to me. One central town location, relatively linear main quest, easy combat with heavily scripted boss battles, and sparse side quests. Character designs are cool though. Really enjoyed pimping out each characters’ costumes individually.

     
  • Shingro 11:36 pm on September 17, 2012 Permalink
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    Borderlands 2 5 hours hence… I told myself I wasn’t going to go midnight gaming for this one… but… well…

    I guess I’m still prone to some versions of hype I guess… I’ll be looking forwards to seeing some Squadies in the wilderness of Pandora! 😀

    Other then that playing some FTL, Civ V Co Op (burns a day alone right there) and eyeballing Sengoku Rance… well it’s just been life as it ever was.

    Recent news
    Wii U Thoughts: An attempt to gather the hardcore crowd back in, sadly thwarted by the fact that all the hardcore have almost by definition invested into one of this generations other consoles.

    Bayonetta 2: Thank you Nintendo forever for saving this game, I’ve given you some serious shit over the Wii cycle for your lack of support of games I like, and my Wii hasn’t been plugged in for ages, but you have my heartfelt and honest thanks for making sure one of those madhouse crazy “we do what we like ’cause a pirate is free” games.

    speaking of madhouse games Tokyo Jungle: 😀

     
  • Pete Davison 5:33 pm on June 6, 2012 Permalink
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    Trine 2 Coming to Wii U, Getting Expansion This Holiday 

    Gorgeous indie puzzle-platformer Trine 2 is on its way to Nintendo’s upcoming system with all-new content.

    (More …)

     
  • RedSwirl 2:37 pm on June 6, 2012 Permalink
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    @bluesforbuddha Nintendo fucked up at the conference, but after a second look the actual content that’s there doesn’t look very bad. There are four or five Wii U exclusives possibly hitting at launch that I honestly want to play.

    The one big WTF so far has been why the hell Nintendo didn’t even mention P-100 at the conference. Not only is it Platinum games, which I sang earlier praises of on this very page, but it’s the next Hideki Kamiya game (Bayonetta, Okami, DMC1, Resident Evil 2). That pedigree alone might have an effect on whether I decide to buy a Wii U.

    Zombie U also looks like it might be pretty impressive if you look at the core ideas and the video I posted below. And also, it looks like a real goddamn survival horror game. Much more so than Resident Evil 6 or Dead Space 3.

     
  • RedSwirl 6:07 am on April 27, 2012 Permalink
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    @tolkoto At last year’s E3 Nintendo confirmed that you’ll at least be able to rig up an external HDD to the system.

     
  • RedSwirl 2:14 am on April 27, 2012 Permalink
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    Don’t know if anybody still cares, but Nintendo just confirmed that Wii-U games will be sold digitally same day as retail – or at least they confirmed that all its launch software will be available digitally on day one. At the very least this sets a precedent for any following consoles.

     
  • impynickers 12:16 am on June 8, 2011 Permalink
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    The multiplayer potential on those controllers is quite interesting. Still, how much money are they going to cost? Also, is third party support going to entail third party exclusives in the long run? Or are they just going to play catchup the whole way along. This is very much a wait and see system for me, but certainly intruiging.

     
  • RocGaude 6:21 pm on June 7, 2011 Permalink
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    @angryjedi Like a lot of people, I don’t know what to think of it yet. Sure, the potential’s there but I’ve stopped relying on that to carry my enthusiasm past a new gadget’s introduction, especially from Nintendo. I’m pretty sure we’ll get one, though. Keeping the controller tethered to the console will keep costs way down and make it another casual market “no brainer”.

     
  • Pete Davison 6:03 pm on June 7, 2011 Permalink
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    So, Wii U. What do we think? Especially with the extensive third-party developer support?

    I like it. Lot of potential there. And if I’m not mistaken, that was Nintendo taking something of a pot-shot at Apple, albeit with a markedly more games-focused product than iOS devices.

     
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