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  • Jeff Grubb 9:53 am on October 13, 2010 Permalink
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    For the two of you wondering, don’t get Medal of Honor. It is a C and maybe worth a rent. I think the multiplayer is fun, but it won’t be able to stand toe-to-toe with Halo or CoD so stick with those.

  • Jeff Grubb 5:44 am on October 2, 2010 Permalink
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    @Scribl @RedSwirl No, it isn’t a debug, it is a Gold release copy. I literally just got the UPS package today. They sent it to me for reviewing on Kombo, obviously before they knew Kombo was kaput. I’ll have to do something with it though.

  • RedSwirl 2:35 am on October 2, 2010 Permalink
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    Yeah I’m pretty sure they’re still called the Taliban in the singleplayer, and @scribl is right, the multiplayer really is just a more technologically advanced version of kids playing with army toys or super soakers. That is the “just fun” part of the game.

    That said, in its singleplayer I do think that MoH is trying to redefine itself as something a little better than Michael Bay. CoD on the other hand kinda has gone in the other direction with Modern Warfare 2 essentially boiling down to 24 on steroids. That’s really a shame too because when it comes to telling the moment-to-moment story of men on the ground, Infinity Ward pulls it off like no other.

    MoH is in my GameFly Que (who the hell is @JeffGrubb reviewing it for?) precisely because I actually kinda want to see how EA pulls off the campaign… and because never actually played any of the previous titles. Strangely enough, Enslaved is not even after playing the PS3 demo (which runs terribly) because I’m not sure I’l have enough room between being slightly late to the party on Bayonetta and Yakuza 3.

  • scribl 9:01 pm on October 1, 2010 Permalink
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    @RocGaude Well, I don’t think all videogames are sports, just like not all games are art. I want games to be taken seriously just as much as anyone, but the path to that future doesn’t begin with a defense of mindless multiplayer shooters that trivialize real war.

    @Jeff If you say so. The trailers didn’t give me much hope, but that’s just marketing I guess.

  • Jeff Grubb 8:06 pm on October 1, 2010 Permalink
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    @Scribl While MoH certainly isn’t Schindler’s List it is better than Michael Bay. Still, where multiplayer is concerned, you are right.

    I just got my review copy and I do think that MoH’s campaign is attempting to be that something “far more interesting.”

  • scribl 7:18 pm on October 1, 2010 Permalink
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    I gotta side with the masses on this one. Playing as the Taliban in MoH multiplayer had no artistic value. It wasn’t meant to provoke thought or show you a different perspective. There’s nothing to defend, and no reason to stand up for it. It’s just kids playing with army toys.

    @zegolf Schindler’s List? Let’s be honest with ourselves here. MoH and CoD aren’t mature art. They’re mindless Michael-Bay blockbusters.

    Don’t blame the masses—they’re right to be offended. Blame EA and Activision for pumping out mindless bullshit when they have the power and money to do something far more interesting.

  • Jeff Grubb 6:15 pm on October 1, 2010 Permalink
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    @beige I think that they are still the Taliban in single player, right? It is only in multiplayer where they are no longer called the Taliban.

    In the campaign players will still be killing a specific type of brown person.

  • zegolf 3:56 pm on October 1, 2010 Permalink
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    I disagree that it’s just a name swap. Sure, on the surface all they’re doing is calling them “the enemy” but think of how emotionally different a game like “The Saboteur” would have been had they called the Nazi Party something like “The Bad Guys” or “The Regime”.

    If the industry is ever going to step it up and play with the big boys, then they need to start embracing this type of emotional response to things like this. Yes, multiple forces are currently engaged in a conflict with Taliban forces. Yes, that sucks HUGE donkey dong. But the industry either needs to go at something like this head-on, or not go at it at all. Calling them “Opposing Forces” really neuters the real conflict and really is a cop-out. If you’re going to make a game set in World War II, call them Nazis. If you’re going to make a game set in the Cold War, you’re fighting Russians. You can’t come out and say “We feel that this is the way it’s going to be, because that’s real life and we’re trying to be real” and then change your mind a few weeks later.

    Game companies have got to stop pussy-footing around things like this. Look at the movie industry and the way they’ve embraced emotionally-driven storytelling. Schindler’s List was so thought provoking and emotional not because they show the suffering of a random, “unnamed” group of people, but because it told the story of a real group of people who experienced a real thing. If you’re going to make a game about an arbitrary conflict in the desert, good for you, but if you’re going to make a game about a war against Taliban forces, and then say “Uhh…we changed our minds, we can’t call them Taliban anymore. Look at the shiny keys!” You can pretty much get bent.

    Yeah. Get bent.

  • zegolf 2:07 pm on October 1, 2010 Permalink
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    Well, EA just got kicked in the crotch – http://kotaku.com/5653024/electronic-arts-buckles-under-pressure-removes-taliban-from-medal-of-honor

  • unmanneddrone 3:59 pm on September 10, 2010 Permalink
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    @RocGaude Very interested in hearing your thoughts on the matter, and on the whole depiction of the military/conflict within video games. It’s especially interesting, with a younger bro in the Aus military who’s looking at getting deployed next year into Uruzgan with the next big rotation come the new year. IPerhaps a different perspective, being a smaller peripheral support group compared to the US forces, but an IED is an IED and the Taliban engaging US forces are the same former Mujahideen fighters picking at our lads.

    Yeah, should be good to hear your views over a range of gaming genres that deal with conflict and war on different scales and in different shades.

  • RocGaude 3:48 pm on September 10, 2010 Permalink
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    Man, it’s great to debate shit here and not “out there”. I took a tour yesterday at other sites (both old haunts and undiscovered territories) to see what the scuttlebutt around the web was about the Giant Bomb deal and it brought me way down. Thanks for always bringing the fat chewing to a civilized level, everybody. 🙂

    On the drive to work today, I got to thinking about the Medal of Honor ban at US bases and I think I’ve decided on my comment about it. I’ll be sure to share it on the SquadCast this weekend.

    @ShotgunGlass Welcome aboard. Hope to hear more from ya.

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